Rutger Bregman joins Gabriel Fleming in the Audible Studios to discuss his latest best-selling publication, Utopia for Realists. Rutger Bregman is one of Europe's most prominent young thinkers. At 29, he is a historian and an author with four books already under his belt, not to mention a regular spot on the revered online journalism platform The Correspondent and publications in The Washington Post and The Guardian.
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